not every prediction comes to pass

15 Sep

Bob Piper has taken Iain Dale to task for a thoroughly hyperbolic column about Gordon Brown. Piper goes on to contrast Dale’s latest rallying call, a dire warning of the ruthlessness of the new Premier, when, only a year ago, he was writing off the then Chancellor’s chances of ever getting into Number 10!

Of course 20/20 hindsight is incredibly useful when tearing into the commentariat, but it is jolly good fun nonetheless.

It’s becoming rather dull reading the Tory Op-Eds as they continuously demonise Brown, as if somehow, he represents the combined reincarnation of Jo Stalin, Chairman Mao, and the Hamburglar.

It’s just lazy politics. If the Tories actually had some policies worth discussing, instead of embarrassingly hard-right proposals from various ad-hoc policy teams, they may actually be able to take on Brown with real issues.

I just can’t take David Cameron seriously. He’s just so pitifully lightweight. Why should some former media-tart with no real experience get to run the country? What the hell has he achieved that suggests he is at all fit to govern us? At least David Davis had some previous form.

Oh right, of course, Cameron went to Eton; I suppose therefore he must be fit to run the country…

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12 Responses to “not every prediction comes to pass”

  1. ashoksoni@hotmail.com September 17, 2007 at 5:59 am #

    Think tank to map Labour policiesBBC News – 12 hours agoScottish Labour leader Wendy Alexander has outlined details of her new think tank to take the party forward. The “arms-length” organisation, to be run by Oxford academic Gregg McClymont, aims to flesh out new policies.

  2. ashoksoni@hotmail.com September 17, 2007 at 5:59 am #

    Think tank to map Labour policiesBBC News – 12 hours agoScottish Labour leader Wendy Alexander has outlined details of her new think tank to take the party forward. The “arms-length” organisation, to be run by Oxford academic Gregg McClymont, aims to flesh out new policies.

  3. c4_dick@yahoo.co.uk September 17, 2007 at 3:03 pm #

    It’s becoming rather dull reading the Tory Op-Eds as they continuously demonise Brown, as if somehow, he represents the combined reincarnation of Jo Stalin, Chairman Mao, and the Hamburglar.It’s just lazy politics.It isn’t lazy politics, it’s the truth. Have you bothered to undertake a serious and objective study of History? I bet you haven’t because it might contradict all those left-wing fairy tales you love so much.If the Tories actually had some policies worth discussing, instead of embarrassingly hard-right proposals from various ad-hoc policy teams, they may actually be able to take on Brown with real issues.There is nothing wrong with hard-right politics because Libertarianism is the only practical and successful socio-economic-political system in history. It’s fascist like Brown, Piper and yourself who are unable to grasp the real issues.I just can’t take David Cameron seriously. He’s just so pitifully lightweight. Why should some former media-tart with no real experience get to run the country? What the hell has he achieved that suggests he is at all fit to govern us? At least David Davis had some previous form.I have to agree with you there. Cameron is too-left-wing and too much like Adolf Blair.Oh right, of course, Cameron went to Eton; I suppose therefore he must be fit to run the country…Actually it would indicate so, since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world. God forbid that a well-educated man govern the country instead of an illiterate, ill-educated, cloth-capped working-class socialist snob and sock-puppet such as Brown, Piper, Lambert and yourself.

  4. c4_dick@yahoo.co.uk September 17, 2007 at 3:03 pm #

    It’s becoming rather dull reading the Tory Op-Eds as they continuously demonise Brown, as if somehow, he represents the combined reincarnation of Jo Stalin, Chairman Mao, and the Hamburglar.It’s just lazy politics.It isn’t lazy politics, it’s the truth. Have you bothered to undertake a serious and objective study of History? I bet you haven’t because it might contradict all those left-wing fairy tales you love so much.If the Tories actually had some policies worth discussing, instead of embarrassingly hard-right proposals from various ad-hoc policy teams, they may actually be able to take on Brown with real issues.There is nothing wrong with hard-right politics because Libertarianism is the only practical and successful socio-economic-political system in history. It’s fascist like Brown, Piper and yourself who are unable to grasp the real issues.I just can’t take David Cameron seriously. He’s just so pitifully lightweight. Why should some former media-tart with no real experience get to run the country? What the hell has he achieved that suggests he is at all fit to govern us? At least David Davis had some previous form.I have to agree with you there. Cameron is too-left-wing and too much like Adolf Blair.Oh right, of course, Cameron went to Eton; I suppose therefore he must be fit to run the country…Actually it would indicate so, since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world. God forbid that a well-educated man govern the country instead of an illiterate, ill-educated, cloth-capped working-class socialist snob and sock-puppet such as Brown, Piper, Lambert and yourself.

  5. aaronsheath@gmail.com September 20, 2007 at 9:17 am #

    C4 – yes, your comment found itself in the Spam bin, as you can see. So, clearly I didn’t delete it. I’m sorry if this rather pisses on your “socialist liar” theory. Oh hum.

  6. aaronsheath@gmail.com September 20, 2007 at 9:17 am #

    C4 – yes, your comment found itself in the Spam bin, as you can see. So, clearly I didn’t delete it. I’m sorry if this rather pisses on your “socialist liar” theory. Oh hum.

  7. aaronsheath@gmail.com September 20, 2007 at 9:40 am #

    It isn’t lazy politics, it’s the truth. Have you bothered to undertake a serious and objective study of History? ~ C4What part of history would that be? People who talk like this, C4, usually know very fucking little beyond the basic fundamentals – but just enough to scare others into thinking they know their onions. It doesn’t work on this blog, though. It’s lazy. As far as my understanding of history goes, Mao and Stalin were both mass-murderers, and the Hamburglar was a fast-food loving kleptomaniac. How exactly is Brown a compound of the three? After all, as you sagely declare, “It’s the truth.”There is nothing wrong with hard-right politics because Libertarianism is the only practical and successful socio-economic-political system in history. It’s fascist like Brown, Piper and yourself who are unable to grasp the real issues. ~ C4Which current Tory policies could be described as Libertarian, then? Surely an expert such as yourself would be able to offer many examples. After all, you’re jumping to their defence…Oh, on which successful “socio-economic-political” Libertarian system do you base this historical insight? I’ve lived in Libertarian systems in the Altai Republic. They do work – in wildernesses, where governments have little relevance. There is not a successful example of such a system in a highly populated area such as Britain. It’s fascist like Brown, Piper and yourself who are unable to grasp the real issues. ~ C4It’s using words like fascist that lets you down. If you really had the historical understanding you claim, you would use such terminology with care. Instead, either because your argument is pathetically weak or your limitation with the English Language, you choose to resort to shrill insults rather than giving reasoned argument.Actually it would indicate so, since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world. God forbid that a well-educated man govern the country instead of an illiterate, ill-educated, cloth-capped working-class socialist snob and sock-puppet such as Brown, Piper, Lambert and yourself.Ha! And so you fall into that trap. What happened to the meritocracy? What happened to talent? So, “since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world,” you assume Cameron has merit to run the country… I would rather see some delivery and ability to govern, rather than the fact he has a certain school tie.*te hehehe*

  8. aaronsheath@gmail.com September 20, 2007 at 9:40 am #

    It isn’t lazy politics, it’s the truth. Have you bothered to undertake a serious and objective study of History? ~ C4What part of history would that be? People who talk like this, C4, usually know very fucking little beyond the basic fundamentals – but just enough to scare others into thinking they know their onions. It doesn’t work on this blog, though. It’s lazy. As far as my understanding of history goes, Mao and Stalin were both mass-murderers, and the Hamburglar was a fast-food loving kleptomaniac. How exactly is Brown a compound of the three? After all, as you sagely declare, “It’s the truth.”There is nothing wrong with hard-right politics because Libertarianism is the only practical and successful socio-economic-political system in history. It’s fascist like Brown, Piper and yourself who are unable to grasp the real issues. ~ C4Which current Tory policies could be described as Libertarian, then? Surely an expert such as yourself would be able to offer many examples. After all, you’re jumping to their defence…Oh, on which successful “socio-economic-political” Libertarian system do you base this historical insight? I’ve lived in Libertarian systems in the Altai Republic. They do work – in wildernesses, where governments have little relevance. There is not a successful example of such a system in a highly populated area such as Britain. It’s fascist like Brown, Piper and yourself who are unable to grasp the real issues. ~ C4It’s using words like fascist that lets you down. If you really had the historical understanding you claim, you would use such terminology with care. Instead, either because your argument is pathetically weak or your limitation with the English Language, you choose to resort to shrill insults rather than giving reasoned argument.Actually it would indicate so, since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world. God forbid that a well-educated man govern the country instead of an illiterate, ill-educated, cloth-capped working-class socialist snob and sock-puppet such as Brown, Piper, Lambert and yourself.Ha! And so you fall into that trap. What happened to the meritocracy? What happened to talent? So, “since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world,” you assume Cameron has merit to run the country… I would rather see some delivery and ability to govern, rather than the fact he has a certain school tie.*te hehehe*

  9. theonemanarmymercenary@hotmail.com September 20, 2007 at 11:23 am #

    So, “since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world,” you assume Cameron has merit to run the country…You can give someone the best education on earth and that person can still be none the wiser for it. Cameron is a case in point of this.Oh, on which successful “socio-economic-political” Libertarian system do you base this historical insight? I’ve lived in Libertarian systems in the Altai Republic. They do work – in wildernesses, where governments have little relevance. There is not a successful example of such a system in a highly populated area such as Britain.I disagree. The libertarian system when it has been implemented even in a limited form has been a success in Britain, the U.S. and Australia, would be an even great success if lefties like you had the courtesy to give it the same benefit that you lot gave Keynesianism between 1945 and 1979 and Fascism since May 2, 1997.

  10. theonemanarmymercenary@hotmail.com September 20, 2007 at 11:23 am #

    So, “since Eton does provide some of the finest education available in the world,” you assume Cameron has merit to run the country…You can give someone the best education on earth and that person can still be none the wiser for it. Cameron is a case in point of this.Oh, on which successful “socio-economic-political” Libertarian system do you base this historical insight? I’ve lived in Libertarian systems in the Altai Republic. They do work – in wildernesses, where governments have little relevance. There is not a successful example of such a system in a highly populated area such as Britain.I disagree. The libertarian system when it has been implemented even in a limited form has been a success in Britain, the U.S. and Australia, would be an even great success if lefties like you had the courtesy to give it the same benefit that you lot gave Keynesianism between 1945 and 1979 and Fascism since May 2, 1997.

  11. aaronsheath@gmail.com September 20, 2007 at 11:31 am #

    I never gave Keynes much courtesy.A dash of Libertarianism is no bad thing. I agree that government should fear the people. Britain and the US also experienced mass poverty too.Australia’s population density makes comparisons unfair. Libertarianism is a perfect model for the Aussies (off topic: my mother grew up in Australia).

  12. aaronsheath@gmail.com September 20, 2007 at 11:31 am #

    I never gave Keynes much courtesy.A dash of Libertarianism is no bad thing. I agree that government should fear the people. Britain and the US also experienced mass poverty too.Australia’s population density makes comparisons unfair. Libertarianism is a perfect model for the Aussies (off topic: my mother grew up in Australia).

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